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  CORNISH PENNY(1)     Mon 28th Jan 2008 03:14:20

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I am looking for all informations about this 2 coins:

- the first one, made in 1811, diameter 35mm, on one side : "FOR THE ACCOMODATION OF THE COUNTY" on the other one "CORNISH PENNY 1811" with the picture, it seems, of a mine ;
- the second one, made in 1812, same size, on one side "CORNISH PENNY" and "ICH DIEN", on the other one "PAYABLE AT SCORRIER HOUSE" et "ONE POUND FOR 240 TOKENS 1812", with the same picture.
Catalogue reference??? Prize???
Thank you
cl2, from France

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  CORNISH PENNY(1)     Fri 9th Jan 2009 14:16:50

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In response to Cl2 [100% (12072x)]  :
I am looking for all informations about this 2 coins:

- the first one, made in 1811, diameter 35mm, on one side : "FOR THE ACCOMODATION OF THE COUNTY" on the other one "CORNISH PENNY 1811" with the picture, it seems, of a mine ;
- the second one, made in 1812, same size, on one side "CORNISH PENNY" and "ICH DIEN", on the other one "PAYABLE AT SCORRIER HOUSE" et "ONE POUND FOR 240 TOKENS 1812", with the same picture.
Catalogue reference??? Prize???
Thank you
cl2, from France

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These are 19th century tokens. Many 18th and 19th century tokens were issued by towns and counties and by commercial companies between about 1790 and 1812 when there were not enough national copper coins (and there were some silver ones too when towards 1810 there was a shortage of silver).

"Cornish" is the adjective from Cornwall, the county in the very south-west of England, where a lot of copper was produced which could be used for making tokens. One picture shows ingots of copper, and another product of Cornwall, pilchards (sardines). On the back are fine pictures of Cornish mines (which needed steam pumping engines to pump out water).

"For the accommodation of the county" means that they were intended to be useful to the people of the county of Cornwall.

The feathers with "Ich dien" ("I serve" in German, but it was probably originally "Your Man" in Welsh) is the badge of the Prince of Wales, who is also Duke of Cornwall. Prince Charles is still Duke of Cornwall, and he does actually own a lot of land in Cornwall and take a great interest in it..

English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish 18th and 19th century tokens are much collected in the UK and the USA, but unfortunately there are no proper categories for them on delcampe.

Leach
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  CORNISH PENNY(1)     Fri 9th Jan 2009 14:30:15

Cl2

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In response to Leach [100% (131x)] (Closed account) :
These are 19th century tokens. Many 18th and 19th century tokens were issued by towns and counties and by commercial companies between about 1790 and 1812 when there were not enough national copper coins (and there were some silver ones too when towards 1810 there was a shortage of silver).

"Cornish" is the adjective from Cornwall, the county in the very south-west of England, where a lot of copper was produced which could be used for making tokens. One picture shows ingots of copper, and another product of Cornwall, pilchards (sardines). On the back are fine pictures of Cornish mines (which needed steam pumping engines to pump out water).

"For the accommodation of the county" means that they were intended to be useful to the people of the county of Cornwall.

The feathers with "Ich dien" ("I serve" in German, but it was probably originally "Your Man" in Welsh) is the badge of the Prince of Wales, who is also Duke of Cornwall. Prince Charles is still Duke of Cornwall, and he does actually own a lot of land in Cornwall and take a great interest in it..

English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish 18th and 19th century tokens are much collected in the UK and the USA, but unfortunately there are no proper categories for them on delcampe.

Leach


Thank you for all these details.
Best regards.
cl2
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